No I wanted to tie a couple first and see if I like the tie before putting in an order where you mentioned. I owned and used a 5/32 bead and also 15 wraps of .015 lead wire on a
90* #8 jig hook. Copper wire, silly legs 'loop tied', sage green yarn in place of chenille, maraboo tail, Grizzly schleppen. Its all stuff I have on hand for this demo. If you're thinking that I'm on the right track and there is a consensus then I'll order the correct components and tie them better in this size (#8) and a larger one......say #2 or 1/0. Is that too large for Pickerel and LMB?